88 - God Wants to Experience You with Ronnie Mills
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what's going on. It's time for another episode of too hard for the radio transmitting from the future free state of greater Idaho. I am the one arm mad man. And back with me today, we got Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie, how are we doing man?
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I'm good. Thank you for having
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me. So I I'm hoping people remember from last time that Ronnie used to host a paranormal radio show back in the day. I don't remember when you said you stopped, but you used to host a paranormal show. So I was kind of thinking, how do we open this up? And I figured I'd ask you, if you were still hosting your show today and let's say maybe your guest fell through or something and you had to fill the hour, what would be like the thing on the top of your mind that you would say, this is what I'm coming with. Like this is what I feel like is important right now and this is what people should hear.
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What people advise and a guest fell through. I had always had a few in my pocket that I could go to when that happened and
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everything and stuff. And, um, but, um, what's important. What would you,
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yeah. Like what's on your mind. What, what do you, when you're looking around at the world and you see the news, I'd see black magic and, you know, good and evil. And, and there's so much crazy things going on that, you know, I, I'd like to hear what you kind of are seeing in the world from, you know, the 10 ,000 foot view or something like that.
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I would, the changes in people, literally, I don't know if it's, and I did a paranormal show, I don't know if it's just regular mental health brought on by new technological changes,
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like on the internet, you know, being on social media, or, you know, because I don't,
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I
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Was talking to a friend the other day and I said, hey, um, you remember when you younger cuz I'm 62 I say remember young younger Mass shootings just happened at the post office and we called it going postal
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Yeah, I I remember that and I'm not that old
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And they were just trying to kill the supervisor and his wife that he was sleeping with the supervisor or something like that vice versa So there's only two people that came to kill. But now you see, how many people can I take out and die by cop before
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they
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get there? And I, it's amazing that you could get like, you know, police armor and you're wearing, because you want to stay up as long as you can to take as many people out,
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you know? And there's no
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exit plan.
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And I said that, I would wonder, is that happening because of evil or mental illness or demonic possession? I don't know.
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That's kind of the same thing that I've been thinking lately, believe it or not. Like I've, I've gone down this rabbit hole like a month or so ago, somebody sent me this video of a guy who was claiming to be a sovereign citizen and he was getting into it with a cop over. I'm traveling, I'm not driving. And it was just a stupid video that my buddy asked, do you think there's anything to this? And my YouTube feed started feeding me all these videos of people getting arrested and doing all these crazy things. And there's something going on and you can see it in their eyes. Like a lot of times they show the mugshot and it's in the eyes and you see right away, it's like, oh, there's something off with that person. And like you said, is it mental illness? Is it evil? Is it demonic possession? Are they all like some sort of Venn diagram that like you are here type of thing and it's it's disturbing because it's like you said, it's things that didn't happen when we were younger when I was younger. or things like this didn't happen. Like none of the kids that I went to school with were gonna shoot up a school. Like that just wasn't a thing. And I look at these people and I look in their eyes and I go, something's up, something's wrong there, something's missing, or maybe there's something there that shouldn't be there.
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I think it's a little bit more,
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my grandmother used to tell me be careful out there because some people are born without fingers and toes and some people are born without souls. Or are they born with a glitch somewhere? But being kind of a believer, I'm not kind of, I am a believer in reincarnation. And it's like, I'm not Hindu, I'm not any religion, but at one time I was Christian religion. And that doesn't fit well with Christians. It
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And thought is, you know, cause
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one
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time I was
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with the
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Catholic church, one time I was with a Baptist, I grew up in a Baptist church, holy sanctified church. And they just say, to take your life is this mortal sin. And I said, How can Johnny with a gun come and blow my head off? What gives him the right? Yeah,
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and
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Me not the right and not that I want
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to do
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it, but what gave him the right to do it And say he's good. Is he gonna go straight to hell? He could be possibly forgiven. So I'm gonna go straight to hell so I didn't understand that but But in my way, the way I want to start reading and start getting and thinking about things and you know, it made sense to me that possibly I agreed to come down here for some reason. And I agree. And I didn't say any guy, I just call, I do believe in people say I don't because no religion. And I just call, cause no man, woman creator, the creator. I agree. And then when I read a friend of mine said, you treat religion like a smorgasbord. You take out the tasty parts for you. And I said, that's one of them. Yeah. And I said,
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Isn't what intelligent people are supposed to do is read a variety of different things and parse out the information that's good and bad
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and apply the good and discard the bad. That seems like you would, you know, want to do that.
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Right. And so I said, um, maybe, and I said, through history, it looks strange. And this is my theory. I said, people come to do great things. And when their time is up, their time is up. And two examples I can use that's very, very close to that. And some people get their goal further than their time. A little bit further. And I said, one is Martin Luther King. And his last speech, he's like, you know, I'm not going to get to the mountain with you. In his exit time. And how many people have attempted to kill him before that? Literally,
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he in jail.
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The many times he'd been arrested, why don't we kill him in jail, you know and stuff and say he hung himself the many times never that one time after you know the civil rights bill had been passed and everything and stuff and it was time for him to exit yeah because you can't you can't see somebody like that going to history as and die of old age something
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as great as that you know and i was
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and it's that don't make any sense. You're not talking essay. You believe in Jesus Christ? He died? 33? Yeah. I was like, you know, some people come for special missions and it's done. It's done. I said, um, Abraham Lincoln's another one.
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Yeah.
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Done with his mission and everything and country's back together, his head blown out, and he saw his death too. He had a dream. The Secret Service was there and it was like it
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was
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a funeral. He said it was in a casket. Said, President's dead. But he went to Ford's Theater and, you know. Went anyways.
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It was time because that was it. You're just going to go into and you're done. There's not too much more you can do. And you know, you reach your pinnacle, and that's it. And some people pass their time, people say, you know, they love Elvis, they say, can it say passes time? Yeah, because we even when they chose a stamp, and some people say no, say, well, you chose young Elvis, didn't choose old
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Elvis.
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And maybe he say passes time, you know, you see it with great people that I am. What's it? Is it the 2023 club?
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No. Yeah.
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27,
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27,
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27.
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Yeah. Forever 27. Yes. It's just like a Jim Morrison. Yeah. It just seems like there was a tribe of them that Kurt Cobain to change music and it just, I'm out lanes
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daily. There's yeah. There's just a ton of them.
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And yeah,
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that makes so much sense. What you're saying, like with a great person like that, somebody who's done something so great with their life, especially early on, like King, King did his best work, you know, he was a younger man. And if he survives after they, they climbed the mountain, all he's going to do is let you down from there, because he can't do anything greater than what he already did. And he's just human like everybody else. Right. And, and bound to make mistakes. You know, like I know he, you know, his personal life probably wasn't the greatest. And, uh, you know, if people start finding out about that, he's not the same great man as he was. And that makes a lot of sense, you know,
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and what you were talking about with reincarnation, I kinda have the same thing. So when I, when I got electrocuted, I got hit with 14 ,400 volts, which is, uh, they called it a catastrophic, unsurvivable injury. Essentially people don't, don't survive 14, four, it turns squirrels to dust immediately, essentially. And I think I died. Nobody really knows for sure because I was up on a pole while I was out. So it's not like somebody could check my pole, you know what? But I went somewhere and I don't know where I went. it feels like wherever I was, I could have been there for five seconds or five million years. There is no time associated with it.
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And I've knocked myself out on a dirt bike before. And you kind of have a little bit of the wonkiness, but you still know I was there, it was about for this long, and that's just what happened. I'm back awake. And I've asked different people, where did I go? What did I see? Why does it feel like I was shown something or given some sort of glimpse behind the veil that was then taken from me when I was brought back? And the answer that I've been given most of the time is like, you did see something. You did go somewhere. And if you wouldn't know what you saw, if you could remember what you saw, you'd no longer want to be alive. and life would just be pointless and meaningless to you. And that place where you go is the well, essentially. And everybody comes from the well. And you go, you know, you get a couple drops into this body every now and then, and then it goes back and it goes to another one, and it goes to another one, and it goes to another one, and you just keep on going until I don't know what, maybe you learn everything there is to learn, Maybe, you know, some greater being is finding enlightenment through splitting itself into multiple multiples throughout a timeframe. Maybe it's, you know, we're some weird fever brain from a Bozeman brain, you know, a Boltzmann brain out in the middle of the universe somewhere that's trying to figure out what it would be like to not exist in that way. There's so many weird things you could go off of just, like, based on that simple, like, theory of reincarnation. You've done it before, you'll do it again.
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I had a
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friend, too, he went into a coma, got sick. It was like, I was almost out of him. Where did you go?
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I said, what's... How does consciousness turn off and then turn back on? I said, that makes no sense to me, because I believe consciousness is the soul. It just doesn't like, and a body can't exist long without it. As I said, people joke around their meat suits. My father had a massive heart attack. He was out, the doctor worked on him for about 20, almost 30 minutes, brought back his body. And then the doctor was like, well, I guess you guys should come down and so we could pull the plug. My sister, she had a problem because she saw the machine. So I'm breathing. So a little fluctuation in his eyes like that. And I was like, she was like, no, I say he's not in there. I said just like, look at him good. And I knew whatever made him alive had left and the body was there. It's like looking at furniture. Yeah. I said, look at him hard. I said, because I'm amazed he's not in there. You know, I was like, anything that made him him is gone. And I don't know how, but just look at him long and hard. The machines are breathing for him and everything. So he agreed to turn off the machine. He was gone with an hour.
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You know, so I was like, and I said, that is the spark. Whatever it is, whatever meets you, you decide that you're gonna go in and how you're going to what you're gonna experience. The spark is consciousness and they said once you take that last breath you lose weight And scientists know I
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yeah, I've actually
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heard I think
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I watched a documentary about that,
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right? That is the consciousness leaving you anything that made you actually who you are and I had a when I had my show I had this this person that was a attorney and she had a near -death experience and she was like she talked about it and she explained it and you know she said she was a staunch Catholic and then she came back and she said I couldn't call God God I can only call God source it was there it was all around me it was I can't it's not a person not a person but she was like, yeah, I can only call it Source. And I said, you know, what does it want? What does Source want? And they said, the lives you live. And she said, Source wants to learn. What it's like to be you, Ron, right now, right here on this planet.
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I said, oh my God, it's blowing my mind. God wants to learn, wants to know what it's like to be you. experience. Right now, all your stuff, all your bad stuff, all your good stuff. And I come up with another concept. I don't really think there's a hell, which is hard to go by. It was hard to deal with that because as a human, you want retribution, you know? Yeah. Somebody shot somebody in your family. I hope they're in hell burning up. And, you know, it was like, I don't know if I could say this because we're on the radio. Oh,
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go for it. Whatever you want to say.
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Okay. My thing was, I say, I hope you inhale, you know, sucking on a bag of dirty cocks. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Went alone is one of the hardest concepts to get rid of. It was just like, the bad you do, the good you do, there's all. It's all. And I said, you're telling me Hitler's not in hell? And know, just mean, mean people, that might be part of the experience.
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And I was
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like,
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just
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like good people have a mission, bad people have a mission. You agree to it and stuff.
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And then I thought and stuff, I read, you know, The worst people are people who call you as a Judas. But there was a prophecy to be fulfilled according to the Bible, that I have to be betrayed by someone I know and then given up. So Jesus
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knew that.
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Yeshua, Yeshua and Joseph knew that. He was like, I
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know it has to happen. And it's
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a prophecy. But who was there before they decided to come down and say, somebody's going to have to turn me in?
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And the book of Judas said Judas was pretty much a good friend of Jesus, one of his staunch followers. But he wanted more of a revolution. He didn't want the quiet thing. And things started to fall apart in one of the apocryphals and stuff. So he agree it'll be me? you know what you know from now on every time somebody said turn as you Judas you don't go in history it's got to be done you know there's a prophecy I that's my agreement I'll do that you know in
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that body I'll do
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that so and so for it to
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come to pass somebody had to do it and it was just so okay he took the he took debate on it and did it. So then I looked up and I said hell was a concept probably made by modern day evangelists because the only reference to hell I could find in bibles was Gehenna and that was that was a city outside of Jerusalem where they burnt the trash. He was like, that was the lake of fire. That was the lake of fire because, you know, they had this trash, no trash man coming. All the trash they made had to be burned out there. And it was kind of a river of fire when you burned it. So we had incinerator growing up, they're not allowed anymore. You burned your trash.
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And that's one of the things that was a reference, the reference
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to hell.
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And I'm just like, okay, and, you know, we'd like it to be Dante's Inferno, but it's like, that was a reference. Yeah. I've
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actually heard about something like that. Isn't like Dante's Inferno kind of the, yeah. So hell was, was different until that painting. And then it kind like the version of hell transformed into Dante's Inferno instead of and yeah man like hell is a very useful tool right especially for like children is scaring children you know or scaring adults even you know it's it's it's such a useful tool for control, right? And like, that's where I, where I have a problem with these, with these different religions is the control aspect. We're going to use fear as a control mechanism, which is evil. Like anybody who's willing to use fear as a control mechanism, our current governing structure is all fear based vote for this guy and, and you're going to lose democracy, vote for this guy and they're going to take your guns away. And meanwhile, financially, they do everything exactly the same. The wars are all the same. They just get you on these issues to scare you into support. And it's very useful, very easy, very effective.
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And, and it gay, it almost gives us how we're getting it. It gives us the illusion that we're in control, but we know that 1 % of the world's wealth, literally is, I mean, a hundred, what, maybe 99 % of the world's wealth is controlled by 1 % of these families.
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Less it's like 0 .001 % and yeah, a couple of them are just, and it's like a handful of
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Russian oligarchs, some shadowy, you know, families that have been around and have been inbreeding for the past three or 400 years and royalty. And, and yeah, man, these, and these people are pulling the strings. Like when you watch the mainstream media and you see these, these crazy people with like Joe Scarborough is one of my favorites cause he's got the eyes like these, these empty eyes, like somebody else's behind them and they don't know what's going on. Like the entire fricking country has been living in the emperor's new clothes for the past four years, anybody with eyes can see that Biden was senile. We all knew he was senile. The mainstream media knew he was senile, but they had their orders that he's running and he has to win. So keep up the appearances. He's look at that beautiful robe he's wearing. And then all of a sudden, all it took was one night, one comment, one hour. And everybody all of a sudden sees it and flips on a dime and are all on in the exact same narrative again. And it's like, A, that doesn't happen by accident, so they're getting orders from somewhere. But B, there should be at least a little bit of critical thinking behind some of these people that can look at this and go, hey, wait a minute, are we being taken for a ride right now? But then again, they
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don't care.
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We're not looking at him as old because he's mean.
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Yeah.
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If he could be
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mean and talk about anybody Anyway, you want and talk about him like dogs. He's like, okay, I don't look I don't look old But I've seen me old man and they're open. They're just seen I don't know, you know, it's just like, okay I think my my grandmother on my mother's side was like a hundred Four she's
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mean as a snake You mean as a snake? Yeah, I was like, it's like,
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you know, it's like And they appeared, she didn't have dementia, but she had like people come in to help her. She ran an M off and stuff. She's being eaten a snake. I said, the only reason she doesn't look incompetent
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cause she's mean as hell. Yeah. We like people are okay.
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Yeah. Yeah. My grandmother's going through it right now. Like we're having horrible times finding people that are, you know, he'll, Oh, I threw her out yesterday.
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It's like, you can't throw
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her
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out. She's there for your, your brain. Like come on, you're, you don't even know who you are at the time. Like, you can't
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just be throwing these people
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out.
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I told her she was there, you know, one time just, you know, once
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you made a comment
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on your fat, you know, it's like, how's that deal you made with the devil for a lot of life? Yeah.
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All your
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are dead. You're pissed off. All your friends are dead and stuff. Nobody knows your music.
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Your body's aching. And yeah, there's only the good die young. No. Yeah.
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Hey, man. And I totally believe in fate. Like I if you know, you're looking at me. The reason I got this is because I did some very bad things in my life is this essentially what happened and I had to be taught a lesson for it in some way or another. And, you know, it's it's tough to like, look at your life and, you get hurt in the way that I did after like, you know, I was a drug addict and I was a criminal and I was a drug dealer and And turned my life around and then I lost my hand. And it's like you sit there and you go, but I did everything right. You know, I, I, I did bad things. Yes.
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But I, I turned it around and I, you know, was doing the right things. And then after you sit around and you look at it for a while and you go, well, no, I, maybe I should have done that. Definitely should have done that. I, I didn't even address this at the time. So after some time at looking at it, it's like, you know what? like I, I did a lot of shit that I shouldn't have done and, uh, I'm paying the price for it now. And, you know, I, I know that I was given another chance to live for some reason. I haven't found that reason yet. You know, I'm trying to keep my eyes open the best I can and hope that, you know, the op, the opportunity when it's presented to me that I'm, you know, clear enough and level headed enough to notice it when it's there in front of me.
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But, you know, it's, it's, it's tough to like really look at these things. You know, I remember I was telling my mother a while back, like, you know, I did this thing at one point, like I stole some shit from some people and, you it's something I'm very ashamed of. And I said, you know, and I'm going to have to pay for that in some way. And she goes, you know, and I kind of told her it was some jewelry and this and that. And she goes, well, how much did you get from it? I go, well, that's, you know, that's not the point at all. Like, it doesn't matter what I got from it. It was expensive jewelry that meant something to somebody that I took from them. And you can't really put a price on that. Like, I have to somehow try and I'll know, you know, when that price is right.
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But you know, it's tough to really look at your life a lot of times and look at the bad as well as the good, you know, because I think a lot of people in this world think that they are good people and really believe that they are good people, but a lot of good people do a lot of bad things that, you know, don't get addressed a lot of the time.
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And I'm laughing because it's so strange you should say that. I a guest one time, I think her name was Barbara Lane, and it's like, it was something like 12 things that tell you about your past life, what your past life was like. And she said, if you joke about certain things in your past life, you know, if you believe in and joke about it, what you were before, you said, then that's your, your consciousness telling you a clue, what you were. And I always joke and I say in my past life, I was a, I was a king and, but I was a shitty king.
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And there was a coup d 'etat and I end up in this life, growing up in the projects, you know? I mean, on food stamps, really, and stuff. And so I have to atone for that past life. I became a social worker and I was a social worker for 35 years. My first seven years, I worked in their housing project as a social worker, as a housing project that I grew up in. So it was like, every time I got a chance to move up, I got a chance to move up the ladder. Oh, you want to be a director, assistant director? I was always a foot soldier. I was like, I didn't like it.
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I didn't, it always had to be, and my ex -wife say you always work in the grimiest places like neighborhood houses and stuff like that. And then I went on, I had a side job, divorce and stuff. And the weekends I was working, I with, in that area where I was, there drug dealers teams that were making more money than me.
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Oh yeah, for sure.
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So they're on what's called the 440 program. They had to come to my groups and everything. And I'm trying to show them a better way. They got more money than me, but I'm trying to show them a better way. Then on weekends and holidays,
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I moonlighted with Cuyahoga County and I was a contingent with their child protective services. So it's kicking in doors because there's like males. you know, we don't sell it. Somebody else going to sell it to him. You know, that was a thought. That's always the cop out, you know, uh,
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I'm, I'm providing them a service. Like I did the whole, I was a drug so I know the whole, you know, the whole gas lighting routine. Yeah. It's,
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it's, you the police. And I said, you don't see the victims. I do. As you get police, they kick down the doors in the middle of the night. the oldest person there is four, taking care of a three -year -old and a two -year -old. And then it's like, you know, then I got to take them in the middle of the night, have them triage and everything. And the police, where's your parents? You know, where's your parents? Somebody made a call. Oh, you're here by yourself.
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And they've been eating condiments for two days, you know, ketchup and mustard and stuff, messy diapers, take them to get triage and everything. Then take them back to the office. They got to place them. And the four -year -old said, don't separate us. It's my job to take care of them. And I said, sweetheart, somebody needs to be taking care of you. You're four. And I would have that. You'll see them, because the place is not going to take three people.
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And I said, you don't see the victims and stuff. But every time I got a chance to move up, I might be in it for a year. And I said, I got to be out there. I worked. And the jobs I got part -time jobs. Really? I worked in I worked in a Pre -release Center I worked in Drug Place for addicts Recovering addicts and stuff because I had a license so I sign off. I'm not in recovery But I got to take them to the Saturday night live meetings And
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the Saturday night
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live meetings were the big day. It was filled in there.
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People came from outside and it was just like. I've been to the same type
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of meetings in San Francisco.
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They're big social gatherings. And meetings. I love hearing the lead meetings.
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Yeah.
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Because I love hearing how people came back.
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Yeah.
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And stuff, and it was just fantastic with them. Because the other guys are like, oh, I got my own meetings and I want to take them. And so you had to have somebody go out on the floor, send them back in the unit for the bathroom.
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So they wouldn't cop drugs in the bathroom and where everybody came
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in,
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watch everybody. So it was just like, I didn't like the big book, but I loved the lead meetings. And so I've been hearing the stories of people coming back and worked in a homeless shelter, homeless vets. It was just like, cause I always needed an extra job cause social work didn't pay that much. And I was like, and I was like, why did you, if they offer it to you, why did you take it? I I don't feel good with it, you know? And that was, and she told me you, that was your mission. You're supposed to learn this time.
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You were going to learn. You were going to work with Elyse. You were going to with And said, do you believe? I said, I just joke
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and say, I was a shitty king. And you know, it's Kudai Thai and this body.
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And it was like,
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she said, but think about why you never moved up. You always thought you were a foot soldier and you worked for a pre -release center and 23 of the last ones were the Adult Protector Services. Investigate allegations of abuse of older Americans. Rip off, taking their houses, people beating them,
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taking their money, and I was in and out of court with them and stuff and it was just, you So I couldn't see it anymore, you know. It's a tough job, you know. I think with all of them I looked up And I think really, that probably was, I was, I had to
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learn
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this time, I had to learn. I said, so next time do I go back and be a king? Yeah, all
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right, how does that work? Do you go to be a dog next time? You know, like, I don't know how it works, right? It's
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interesting
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stuff, man.
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I think you just keep coming back as people, but I was like, I think. Hey,
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for all I know, you know, I don't know. And I'm happy to not know. Like for me, like I'm not one of these people who feel like I need to find the answers to any of these things like I'm happy to think about them and, you know, let them affect my life in some way or another without really needing to know the truth to it or not. Like for me, I know something happened when I was out. Do I need to know exactly what it was? Not really, because I, I have a feeling that I'll figure it out again someday that I don't think it was just my brain, you know, firing weird signals, doing weird things like, like the, uh, typical, you know, the doctor will tell you, Oh, you know, the human brain's a crazy thing. It protects you in circumstances like that. It'll turn off. It'll do, you know, it does all these weird things and they can just hand wave it off immediately.
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And these are the same hospitals like at the Mayo clinic where I have my amputation done. They told me about a study that they did where, um, they were having a bunch of people saying that they were having out of body experiences during surgeries. And they were like, ah, you know, these people are full of shit. We're going to bust them. So they put some shelving up on the top of the operating rooms and they stacked weird stuff up there. Can of spam, you know, here's a slinky, here's a, you know, a tick, whatever, just weird, random stuff. And you couldn't see it from the operating room looking up and sure as shit, man, people would go in and tell them they had all these experiences and they go, Oh really? What's all the weird stuff doing up on the, on the wall? Then they're like, Oh, you mean the slinky? That's weird. And they're like, Whoa, you know? So it's Even, even like with me, they called my, they called, like, called my parents, called my family, said, catastrophic, unsurvivable injury, he's gone, he's a
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goner, and here I am, you know, it's, they can't explain a lot of this stuff, but they sure do try. And on, on that, let's actually, let's, I was going to ask you about this, but let's just kind of pivot here for a second, if you don't mind. And last time you were on, we were discussing the, uh, UFO hearings. And to me it seems like there is zero appetite for another one of those. What do you think?
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Yeah, they know NASA and everybody knows a lot more than they're leaning on. And like I said before, my whole thing was like, why we won't tell people, Why will we not tell people that we've already made contact with alien beings? Why won't we tell people that we've made contact?
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And everything is in power. Just like we were talking about those families that are controlling all the wealth. The Federal Reserve is the biggest example of that. It's a deficit where you borrow from, I guess, these families in the Federal Reserve. But the thing is, they said, well, it's like, oh, well, we need to borrow more money. Go ahead and print it.
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And
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then borrow and then loan it after you
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print
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it. And then, and
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then split
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it up
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again.
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And
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they just, oh,
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That's like, I, like I asked you, I said, loan me $5. Well, Ron, cut out some paper and put $5 on it. And you owe me $5.
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I was like, and
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then I'll take that $5 and make 15 more out of it and loan it out to them too.
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Right.
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So I'm just, I'm sick, but you're in it for these families cause they tell you how much money to print and you owe them and you've been old or in their money since, uh, uh, since the America won the revolutionary war, it takes money to run a country.
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Yeah.
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So you borrowed the money that was there, but you you printed money and saying that's it and that's the deficit and From what? I I guess that said the reason that Kennedy had the back of his head blown off because he was saying I don't think we should deal with the Federal Reserve anymore. What's your deal with them and stuff? And how about that
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CIA? They're not attuned. They're not too great either
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Yeah. So, uh, they said that, that Lincoln was saying the same thing. We got to get from under them. He end up dead. So
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it
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was like, that's what I think is just like you owe their family and they're the ones in power. Listen to this.
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I've got this tweet here that I'll read real quick and then I'll get you back on it. So this is interesting. interest payments on U .S. national debt will shatter 1 .140 trillion dollars this year, eating 76 % of all income taxes collected. So 76 % of our income taxes are going straight to bankers. Straight to bankers. Before they even do anything else, we're paying off the bankers.
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But you know, even, even there's a weirder Another thing is, if you look at the history of Haiti, they say Haiti have freed themselves from the French. There's slavery and the Haitians and the Descente fought, whooped their asses, sent them going back out the country. They come over a gunboat and they said, this is how it's going to go. Well, we lost property, which is you. This is why Haiti is broken to this day. The French come back over gunboats and they said,
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we're gonna get out the country, but you owe us
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for the property we lost. And you mean that was
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us? Yes. And they said,
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but you're gonna pay it and an international court said you have to pay us. So they have steadily been in hock with France every since. That's come they can't get a leg up.
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Holy shit
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And I said, well normally if you win you owe anybody shit You whoop somebody
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Like beating up somebody say you knocked out two of my teeth while we were fighting, you know I was trying to take it down and I got two of my teeth not get paid for my dental and you started to fight so You know, you have no right to protect yourself, but international courts for you to be a country You got to pay France back and they've been in debt with France ever since they can't get a leg up and I said Did that happen here? Because that's who
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Supposedly we keep borrowing money from yeah, you know because they finance you to come here and stuff Whoop their asses up. You get your ass whoop where I am. You got your ass whooped. I don't know, you know
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Yeah. Maybe
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apology for beating you a little too bad, but I don't owe you money. Yeah. But it's the weirdest thing. It was like, and this is how much property we lost. This is your bill.
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So sick. So corrupt. And, but of course they'll tell you, but you can't put a price on a human life, right? But we do it all the time, all the time, all the time. Oh, that's so gross. I didn't know that. I have to look into that some now.
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And you know, I
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guess, I guess the Clinton foundation stealing, you know, a billion dollars for them after that, you know, hurricane was just insult to injury, you know, like, Hey, we'll, we'll come and grab a couple more billion out of you while you're at your complete worst, you know,
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what's amazing me even now. and this whole thing is what people will do for power. Oh, yeah. People at once will run against you, and you just back and forth, and call names, and they do things and stuff. And they say you're complete dirt and stuff. Now there might be a crumb for you, and all of a sudden then. And I said, where are the real men? Where are the real men? There's a senator. His wife was called ugly. It said that his wife was called ugly, and his father killed JFK by a person's running.
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And now, he's at the table for scraps. When do you become a man, and you say, you
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talked about me like a dog, you go
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after... I need to be at the table to get a scrap.
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Just a scrap. Yeah, you know just a scrap. Just throw me a piece of little piece of meat on the floor. I'll get it
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Yeah,
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you know what
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this
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power is and I said see make it will make men weak Women too and I was like it just what is going on. What is do we don't know? There's so much that you just will you know, you just will give up everything I said, there's like, what do you think that person said? And I said, Oh yeah, well, it looked like some of them are given a certain person palatial for scratch.
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Yeah. No shit. Right.
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There's a,
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there's a major
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power. We're going to fight. We're going to talk. Oh yeah. There's you need to be an Apollo do need to be an apology somewhere.
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There's no morals in Washington DC, you know, there's just no backbones, no fricking in spines, any of them.
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It's, it's so gross because yeah, like I've been, let's, I'm trying to think of an example deals with the devil. Yeah, for sure. Like I've been, okay. Like I've been fired by a job before for, you know, a reason that I don't think is just, I wouldn't even go and eat in that restaurant again, let alone go and like stand next to my GM and, and the staff how great he is. You know, like I just, as a man, no, he fired me for a bullshit reason that I don't agree with and I'm done. Like I've washed my hands with this place. I don't, I don't need you. I can find another job. I'm good at what I do, you know? And yeah, to, to crawl, go crawling back. These things never happen in a free market because it doesn't really get you anywhere in the free market, groveling and kissing ass. It can only get you so high up the ladder in a corporate atmosphere because the guys at the top don't want you next to them. They want you underneath them. The guys at the top are killers. They're out there. Killer be killed. We're here to make money, kick ass and take names and we need you. You kiss asses. You're useful and we can get you to do the menial tasks, but you don't belong on the same table as we do. And that's like how it works in capitalism, period. Whether you like it or not, that is not how it works in Washington, D .C. And we're gonna see some wild stuff in the next couple of weeks
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because there is a massive power shakeup going on. Like I read that Kamala Harris is gonna like protest Bibi Netanyahu tonight or something like that. And to me, like I'm not interested in that. Like I'm anti -war. That's all I care about really in that circumstance. All when I see that I go Oh She just got some power and she wants to go and stick her dick in someone's mouth on national television to show it off
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For the night makes perfect sense in Washington DC essentially and you know, that's what we're gonna see
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Do things it's remarkable, but I think there's a lot more going on. There's I Just look at the whole thing is things are being done that we can't do
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We can do
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Things are being done that we can't do things are being If we said it at our jobs We'd be out If we said some of the things it wouldn't be forgiven wouldn't be forgotten. We'd be out We'd be out, you literally, you know, and you
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00:45:17
Like literally there are things that we cannot say and cannot do the things, you Yes, one day, somebody sent me something a while back, a long while back, maybe about 10 years ago. And they sent me an email and said, look at this and figure out who this is and stuff. And they said, this group, this organization, these group of people here, and they said, these group of people have domestic violence charges, bank fraud charges,
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This is stuff and they say this this a long list of stuff And I was like who which group do you think it is? And I said that's got to be the NFL wrong There's got to be the NBA players wrong I Say hockey players aren't getting this much stuff. Yeah I'm trying to figure out teams. It's the
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United States Congress.
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Oh,
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yeah
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The list of things they did, and still had their jobs. I was like, are you kidding, bounced checks, domestic violence, DUIs, we lose our jobs. Sexual stuff,
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lots of sexual stuff, lots of payoffs in Washington. I think I read something a while back, it was like, they went through all the people that were like talking shit about Trump's sexual stuff, and they were like, this guy paid 5 million, this guy paid 8 million, this woman paid 12 million and they just keep going and going, going. It's man, these people are just so sick and twisted. It's, it's
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hard to even believe. Yeah. Yeah. And that's just the stuff we know
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about that they got caught on because they got caught
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and I bet somebody, I said, he's going to end up dead. I bet him $5. You're going to end up dead. I'll take that bet.
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Yeah. Anytime.
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I, you know, I was like, it's too many names, too many people.
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Yeah.
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Too many names. And so I was like, how was he not on a deaf watch? Was it, who did he hang himself three times? Possibly one of those hung
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00:47:28
himself and then walked over. There was, gosh, I don't remember which one it, I think it's like Ben rich or something like that. Who he, they said he
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shot himself with a shotgun
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and the shotgun was like 40 yards away or something like that. Yeah,
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it's weird right was going I said,
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I know he's going it's just like it was like the Hollywood madam Said that book disappeared book disappeared as I
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Disappeared in and she had to get quiet because she was gonna disappear too. So it doesn't make any sense It's a little helper. She's got very quiet. See I'm surprised. She's still a lot Hey, here's another person
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00:48:09
that's flirting with a bullet right now, Elon Musk. He's flirting with a bullet here. What's your read on that guy?
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I don't know too much about him though. I don't know. It's just...
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Do you think he's
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read in on the aliens?
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00:48:27
They're
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00:48:28
to be gone because they didn't put up all these charging stations like they should have. And they're very expensive cars. So they didn't put up all these charging stations and it was less like, you know, the few
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00:48:40
and far
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between. It's not the car to take a big road trip on.
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So do
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you think he's read in on aliens?
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00:48:49
I think when he's, he has to be quiet and I think he's already one of those people that is working with NASA had to be quiet cause he's, he's doing the rocket things, right?
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You would think if he's up there with satellites and shit that he's going to see something.
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He is, but I think they won't let him see anything. Like we're now, what is the, oh God, what is it called? They know it's there going and
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00:49:14
stuff. The
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00:49:14
Black Knight Satellite. Black Knight Satellite. They knew it's been there for the longest. They know it's not an asteroid. They know it's kind of circling around, it's monitoring. It's in a
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weird orbit too.
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Right.
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And it's like, okay, you just landed a satellite on a moving asteroid.
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00:49:31
Why not go visit the Black Knight satellite?
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00:49:35
They're not going to, because they already know what it is. They already know what it is. And you're told all the time, well, if it's not that, go visit and approve. Just like when they had their rover on Mars. They said, if it's not a pyramid, just land, just do it for all of us. Do it for all of us.
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00:49:58
Yeah, there's Did NASA? Photoshops a lot of pictures and they said we do that because of the color of Mars
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Yeah, they made it red for so long and now it's blue like it should be I I saw that
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We do that we do that because of the color of Mars and stuff.
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They wanted to look red They wanted
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to stop its propaganda
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exactly
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And I said, what is that thing that looks like an ancient pyramid there? It's not it's just a land mass Okay, people keep asking. Let's just go there Drive the rover there and show everybody. It's just like a mountain mass. No, we're not going to We're
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00:50:39
not
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going to and stuff and you know stuff goes off at opportune times, too Stuff goes off at opportune times. Yeah, NASA's that NASA is, they're
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00:50:51
so shady with pictures. Like I've seen how they, they like crop clouds in on, on like the pictures of the earth where you'll be like, here's a group of clouds and here's eight more of the exact same group of clouds like circled randomly. And it's like, why do you need to do that? Like I don't understand, are they covering things up? You would think they would be able, it'd be easier to erase something than throw a cloud over, but maybe it's easier to throw a cloud over it. I don't know. You know,
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00:51:19
They they admit that they do that and it's like, okay you went to the moon essentially and a 76 Nova
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00:51:29
Yeah, yeah, and this thing here had more computer tech in it Then you decided you weren't ever going back for some strange reason you destroyed
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00:51:39
all the tech
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00:51:41
Yeah, you weren't going back and everything where what reason I think you were told not to go back back. There's like, you know, you need to get yourself home. Somebody told me to get yourself home and be quiet. Don't come on this side of the moon. You know, hang it back. Somebody said Death Star. You know, that exactly didn't come from him. It's thought that the moon when Obama was in office and they they decided to shoot a rocket to the moon And just hit a rocket on the moon. It rang for 30 minutes. Yeah It said it's been bombarded by asteroids, but the craters are not deep
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00:52:26
They're uniform under
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00:52:28
they think it's still under it. Yeah, so it's it those craters you could ride in them They're not deep for some reason. We know we have craters on this planet. The Grand Canyon is one So it's like it's like not like this at all. So They think it was truly a death star was put there by somebody they said moons are not shaped that perfect Yeah, other moons are not like that. Just as over and round 28 -day cycle G a woman's cycle was 28 days. I was like,
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yeah,
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so it's like it and and Why is it there? Why is it so perfect there and then? We did we had that eclipse and it was like, you know Don't worry. How is that? The sun is much bigger than the moon. It's 400 times bigger than the moon It's in the exact right spot, right
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00:53:21
the exact right spot and it
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was 400 Miles
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away.
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Yeah
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Yes, I said How do you get that perfect?
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Perfect alignment like that. I've
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thought a lot about this I'm a sci -fi writer and I've thought if it's a machine what is it for, what does it do, and who built it, for what purpose, essentially. And what I have kind of come, like, if I, if it's a machine, I would think that it was put here to essentially garden the planet. You know, we're gonna, we're gonna make this planet at the right, we've, maybe they found some, a planet in the right position, and they were able to terraform it a bit. Maybe they didn't have to. Maybe they built the whole freaking system, for all we know. But my I so one of my favorite Fermi paradox solutions is comes from a guy named Isaac Arthur on YouTube.
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00:54:19
And he does what's called the Dyson Dilemma. And his thought is that any type one civilization and up is gonna build a Dyson sphere around their star at some point or a Dyson swarm just to gather energy. That's essentially where we would go with it if we had the time and space and energy and all that crap to do it. And, uh, we don't see any of those things anywhere. So there's a, maybe we've got, you know, NASA government agencies that are scrubbing data. So we can't see them out there. Maybe they're just not showing us the ones that are out there. Like there's a couple of different things, but if they aren't out there and aliens are out there and they are here, then that means they're traveling at the speed of light or faster. and my thought is is they're getting here through the moon that that's a wormhole that that moon is got a wormhole in it or it produces one out of it and maybe that you fly in through a crater and you out a wormhole and then you go to another system one of the other systems that they've built throughout time
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00:55:23
perfect Airport because you got the dark side cuz I never never
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move we'll never see it so if I want to visit earth and we quoted Zacharias stitching in the 12th planet they did come to visit her we got an upgrade because we don't know how it said we jumped from Neanderthal to Homo erectus and I just said what happened to Neanderthal supposed to be stronger than us and stuff had tools more fierce fighter we got a genetic upgrade and it It was like they went extinct. It wouldn't be the first animal that we have not continued
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to make animals Yeah,
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then stop, you know, we've killed off animals and made them extinct That was one they were competing with us for food and women. They had to go we're smarter because the aliens came they want to go and it was like The end of those a little too strong and stuff like that, you know, not easy to control
SPEAKER_01
00:56:28
Yeah. Well, it's easier to give a genetic upgrade to Homo erectus, who will work with them. More docile animal. Yeah, because we're not going to dig that, and so it did and gave us that upgrade. All of a sudden we, because I said, we are top of the food chain. We shouldn't be.
SPEAKER_03
00:56:51
And everything useful from the Neanderthals, we took ourselves and incorporated into our DNA, which is why it's still in there. I've read that like Neanderthals essentially like captured and raped women, uh, human women. And you, yeah. And so if a male human impregnated a female Neanderthal, you wouldn't get anything like they just don't work out or you would get a male or, or don't remember exactly how it is, but if you do a female human and a male Neanderthal, you get a very good crossbred female. The males can't reproduce, they're like a mule. But the females, that's where all of our good DNA from the Neanderthals came from, was from those females who ended up getting released or you know, I think the bow is probably why they're all gone is we probably figured out the bow and arrow. Did we figure it out? Did somebody show it to us? Who really knows? But cooperation in the bow is probably what did it.
SPEAKER_01
00:57:55
Book of Enoch says the apocrypher that they check out of the Bible said the watchers were supposed to come down and teach men certain things, but they liked their women. So they end up sleeping with men and women. They did teach them about metallurgy, weapons, stuff that they should not have taken, teach men about. So but we went from there, but that was I think that's all in all and the genetic the genetic Upgrade.
SPEAKER_00
00:58:28
Yeah
SPEAKER_01
00:58:30
Stuff we
SPEAKER_00
00:58:31
can we can
SPEAKER_01
00:58:32
Literally, we can troll our environment now we air -conditioned We can heat you know, no more caves and we just had a genetic upgrade. Yeah went from there and And we knew exactly they were going to be gone. They were stronger than us. And then they said that they found that some of the Neanderthals ate us too.
SPEAKER_03
00:58:56
Yeah. They, they ate the men and impregnated the women.
SPEAKER_00
00:58:59
I left that part out. Yeah. But have you
SPEAKER_03
00:59:03
ever, have you ever written, uh, read Larry Niven at all?
SPEAKER_01
00:59:07
No, no.
SPEAKER_03
00:59:08
So he, my favorite book is called protector by Larry Niven and he has just an amazing theory on humanity that comes out of this book where essentially, um,
SPEAKER_03
00:59:19
the protectors are these aliens that come from a star near the center of the galaxy. And, uh, are a three, like they go through three stages of development. They go through child, breeder and protector. A breeder is a home as a, a male or female Homo erectus. That's all it is. It can, It can think a little bit, it can stay alive, it can keep its young alive, but it can't really do all that much. But, once they get to a certain age, they start to have a smell for this root that grows on the planet, and they eat it, and it transforms their body and makes them into a super soldier, smarter than a supercomputer, and they end up coming to Earth. The way that he does it is, that food that they take to change them into protectors, doesn't grow on earth. So they don't get that tree of life root, what they call it. And so we're forced to evolve from Homo erectus into Homo sapiens. And if you end up giving a male human, like a normal male or female human that root now, then they change into this incredible fighting machine smarter than everybody. It's a really interesting read and he has so many great like, And the reason that you have arthritis is because your bones are supposed to
SPEAKER_03
01:00:38
expand when you get to, and he just goes through the whole thing. So anybody who's interested in this stuff, go read that book. It's incredible. Ronnie, you got any parting words for us before we get out of here?
SPEAKER_01
01:00:48
No, thank you for having me. I appreciate the talk. It's good to know. All people don't take that pretty, pretty well. So yeah,
SPEAKER_03
01:00:58
you know, it's always fun to bounce ideas around and, and yeah,
SPEAKER_01
01:01:02
right. They don't take that too much. You can't talk to people with such prisons. You can't talk about that. Yeah,
SPEAKER_03
01:01:07
rough. My grandparents don't like that conversation too much.
SPEAKER_01
01:01:11
I used to ask my grandmother, God loves you. He loves you more than anything. But if you do wrong, you'll burn forever in the lake of fire. I'm a little confused. Hey, well,
SPEAKER_03
01:01:24
my grandparents used to be the same way and now they're on CBD. So we've made progress at least. All right. Thanks again, Ronnie. Good night, everybody.